某網路討論區 NokiA 8310 使用者之回應
我發現 Nokia 8310不只很耐摔,且是超耐摔的,我的 8310買來有 5個月,
從我手上摔出去的不少10來次,且沒有加護套,最嚴重的一次是 2個月前
我在騎車時,速度蠻快的,我把 8310放在胸前的口袋。
我撞到凹路,8310就從我的口袋飛出去,直接撞擊馬
路又滑行數公尺.......
我超心疼的,後來我撿起來看,竟然好好的沒有斷電,只是外殼有擦傷,
後來我就換掉外殼,又一直用到現在都沒有事,不知道算不算是一個優點?
PS:我發誓!我所說的千真萬確
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回應本篇發表人:Sherlock 回^應:primer 回應日期:2002-07-11
哇塞 ~~真ㄉ假ㄉ太讚了吧 ......@@"
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回應本篇發表人:PAUL 回應:Sherlock 回應日期:2002-07-11
我有一次不小心將我的 Nokia 從 15公尺高的地方摔下來也是沒事 ~呵呵 ~~
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回應本篇發表人:阿志 回應: PPAUL 回應日期: 2002-07-11
那不算什麼!我上次掛在脖子上忘記了 ... 帶它一起游泳了很久 ... 還不是沒事 ~ 哈哈哈哈 ~~
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回應本篇發表人:過客 回應:阿志 回應日期:2002-07-11
我的 8310上次不小心從我家 16 樓掉下去,我嚇壞了趕緊跑下去看,結果沒事,我還打回家報平安說...
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回應本篇發表人:飛行員 回應: 8310用者 回應日期: 2002-07-20
我的 8310更強,上次開飛機 ...... 8310從空中掉下來,後來被好心人撿到 .... 寄回來後...
哇 ....... 一切都正常,換個殼就和新的一樣~~~
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回應本篇發表人:小豬 回應: G阿志 回應日期:2002-07-20
我的更厲害,上次和朋友去烤肉,手機不小心掉下了火爐,到要走時
才發覺,已經烤了 3 多小時,撿上來一切操作正常,不過殼燒壞了,換殼後收訊還比以前強很多 !!!!!!!
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回應本篇發表人:好處多多 回應:primer 回應日期: 2002-07-21
我上次把 8310放在口袋忘了拿出來褲子就拿去洗了,結果找了 5天後才在洗衣店找到,
還是好心的店家洗完後才找到的 (手機洗的很乾淨說 ),回家後用家用電話打手機測試,手機竟然還會響,
更誇張的是電池才用一格,還發現聽廣播都不會有雜音 ....
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回應本篇發表人: 2u04 回應:G 好處多多 回應日期:2002-07-21
我的 8310的電老是都用不完 ... 買了半年了,從沒關機....
現在電池才用一格,有時候,電多到會漏電,常被電的手麻麻的 ...
有一次露營... 晚上時 ... 我按了一下 8310... 燈好亮,害同學以為天亮還醒了....
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回應本篇發表人: ~~Tribal~~ 回應:primer 回應日期: 2002-07-21
上述有留言的人,招待北歐之旅 "芬蘭精緻之旅 15天 " 並贈送每人一支
NOKIA6610 手機一支,以茲紀念,並請繼續愛用 NOIKA 手機及產品 ~~~
願神與你同在 ....................................................
Nokia 服務部 啟
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回應本篇發表人:ㄚ迷 回應:G阿志 回應日期:2002-07-21
我是混黑社會的,經歷幾次被暗算後發現 8310 還可以用來防彈 .. 或當成黑金剛跟別人PK.... =/=..
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回應本篇發表人:我更厲害 回應: ==]]::::::::::回應日期:2002-07-22
那又算什麼 ? 我的 NOKIA 8310 才真的是堅固的沒話說
告訴你吧 ~~ 我有一次在煮湯,不小心將我的手機掉到煮沸的湯裡,
足足燉了 3 小時才發現撈起 ..... 竟然沒事說 .. 只能說... 傑克 ... 這真是太神奇了
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回應本篇發表人: RuRu 回應:阿志:::::::::: 回應日期:2002-07-22
那算什麼 ? 我的 NOKIA 8310 才真的夠利害的 .....
我服務於中鋼,一次不小心我的手機掉到煉鋼爐裡,
結果你知道嗎 ? 後來那支手機從煉鋼爐裡流出還抱怨的說起話來 ..............
"XXX !你想燙死我啊!"..... 哎!沒辦法,它就是這麼人性化 ......( 這句真是經典 !!!)
轉貼自 http://www.bonny.com.tw/bbs/redirect.php?fid=13&tid=6274&goto=nextnewset
2009年1月16日
魂縈夢牽的台灣小吃啊
新年回台灣五天,有辦法吃完以下的全部東西嗎?
魯肉飯
雞肉飯
蚵仔煎
士林炸雞排
鼎泰豐
麻辣鍋
藥燉排骨
甜不辣/關東煮
陽春麵+豆干+豬耳朵+魯蛋
豬血糕
豬血湯
潤餅
油炸肉圓
北斗肉圓
肉粽
菜頭湯
碗粿
大腸麵線
蚵仔麵線
擔仔麵
永和世界豆漿大王的飯糰加燒餅油條
台式自助餐
鹹酥雞
豆花
東山鴨頭/滷味
臭豆腐
麻辣臭豆腐
排骨飯
士林大香腸
米粉湯
糯米腸
鴨肉扁
肉包
掛包
淡水阿給
淡水魚丸
淡水魚酥
新竹貢丸
珍珠奶茶
台式刨冰
紅豆粉圓
…
…
…
(好像還有漏很多啊……)
魯肉飯
雞肉飯
蚵仔煎
士林炸雞排
鼎泰豐
麻辣鍋
藥燉排骨
甜不辣/關東煮
陽春麵+豆干+豬耳朵+魯蛋
豬血糕
豬血湯
潤餅
油炸肉圓
北斗肉圓
肉粽
菜頭湯
碗粿
大腸麵線
蚵仔麵線
擔仔麵
永和世界豆漿大王的飯糰加燒餅油條
台式自助餐
鹹酥雞
豆花
東山鴨頭/滷味
臭豆腐
麻辣臭豆腐
排骨飯
士林大香腸
米粉湯
糯米腸
鴨肉扁
肉包
掛包
淡水阿給
淡水魚丸
淡水魚酥
新竹貢丸
珍珠奶茶
台式刨冰
紅豆粉圓
…
…
…
(好像還有漏很多啊……)
2008年12月26日
2008年12月23日
可怕的過年吉祥話
從獨孤木的blog上看來的… 真是可怕的過年吉祥話啊!
裁員廣進 裁員滾滾 薪餉四成 萬市如憶 工洗發裁 遭裁禁飽
希望大家新年快樂,完全不會像上述的那邊可憐啊!
原網址 http://www.wretch.cc/blog/phopicking/13700737
裁員廣進 裁員滾滾 薪餉四成 萬市如憶 工洗發裁 遭裁禁飽
希望大家新年快樂,完全不會像上述的那邊可憐啊!
原網址 http://www.wretch.cc/blog/phopicking/13700737
2008年12月7日
昨日的我
不知道有誰會跟我一樣,沒事在google上面搜尋自己的名字的。
我常常這麼做,而google給我的結果,通常也不會差太多,大多都是我以往在網際網路上留下的足跡。
今天會特地寫一篇,是因為不小心看到有人引用我在台大電機念碩士班時寫的論文。那個題目和我以前的題目還真是像呢!
做個紀念囉。
基于直接力控制的导弹高精度末端导引方法研究
我常常這麼做,而google給我的結果,通常也不會差太多,大多都是我以往在網際網路上留下的足跡。
今天會特地寫一篇,是因為不小心看到有人引用我在台大電機念碩士班時寫的論文。那個題目和我以前的題目還真是像呢!
做個紀念囉。
基于直接力控制的导弹高精度末端导引方法研究
2008年12月5日
轉貼:'You've got to find what you love,' Jobs says
http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2005/june15/jobs-061505.html
Stanford Report, June 14, 2005
'You've got to find what you love,' Jobs says
This is the text of the Commencement address by Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple Computer and of Pixar Animation Studios, delivered on June 12, 2005.
I am honored to be with you today at your commencement from one of the finest universities in the world. I never graduated from college. Truth be told, this is the closest I've ever gotten to a college graduation. Today I want to tell you three stories from my life. That's it. No big deal. Just three stories.
The first story is about connecting the dots.
I dropped out of Reed College after the first 6 months, but then stayed around as a drop-in for another 18 months or so before I really quit. So why did I drop out?
It started before I was born. My biological mother was a young, unwed college graduate student, and she decided to put me up for adoption. She felt very strongly that I should be adopted by college graduates, so everything was all set for me to be adopted at birth by a lawyer and his wife. Except that when I popped out they decided at the last minute that they really wanted a girl. So my parents, who were on a waiting list, got a call in the middle of the night asking: "We have an unexpected baby boy; do you want him?" They said: "Of course." My biological mother later found out that my mother had never graduated from college and that my father had never graduated from high school. She refused to sign the final adoption papers. She only relented a few months later when my parents promised that I would someday go to college.
And 17 years later I did go to college. But I naively chose a college that was almost as expensive as Stanford, and all of my working-class parents' savings were being spent on my college tuition. After six months, I couldn't see the value in it. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life and no idea how college was going to help me figure it out. And here I was spending all of the money my parents had saved their entire life. So I decided to drop out and trust that it would all work out OK. It was pretty scary at the time, but looking back it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The minute I dropped out I could stop taking the required classes that didn't interest me, and begin dropping in on the ones that looked interesting.
It wasn't all romantic. I didn't have a dorm room, so I slept on the floor in friends' rooms, I returned coke bottles for the 5¢ deposits to buy food with, and I would walk the 7 miles across town every Sunday night to get one good meal a week at the Hare Krishna temple. I loved it. And much of what I stumbled into by following my curiosity and intuition turned out to be priceless later on. Let me give you one example:
Reed College at that time offered perhaps the best calligraphy instruction in the country. Throughout the campus every poster, every label on every drawer, was beautifully hand calligraphed. Because I had dropped out and didn't have to take the normal classes, I decided to take a calligraphy class to learn how to do this. I learned about serif and san serif typefaces, about varying the amount of space between different letter combinations, about what makes great typography great. It was beautiful, historical, artistically subtle in a way that science can't capture, and I found it fascinating.
None of this had even a hope of any practical application in my life. But ten years later, when we were designing the first Macintosh computer, it all came back to me. And we designed it all into the Mac. It was the first computer with beautiful typography. If I had never dropped in on that single course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts. And since Windows just copied the Mac, its likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do. Of course it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards ten years later.
Again, you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something — your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life.
My second story is about love and loss.
I was lucky — I found what I loved to do early in life. Woz and I started Apple in my parents garage when I was 20. We worked hard, and in 10 years Apple had grown from just the two of us in a garage into a $2 billion company with over 4000 employees. We had just released our finest creation — the Macintosh — a year earlier, and I had just turned 30. And then I got fired. How can you get fired from a company you started? Well, as Apple grew we hired someone who I thought was very talented to run the company with me, and for the first year or so things went well. But then our visions of the future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When we did, our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And very publicly out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was gone, and it was devastating.
I really didn't know what to do for a few months. I felt that I had let the previous generation of entrepreneurs down - that I had dropped the baton as it was being passed to me. I met with David Packard and Bob Noyce and tried to apologize for screwing up so badly. I was a very public failure, and I even thought about running away from the valley. But something slowly began to dawn on me — I still loved what I did. The turn of events at Apple had not changed that one bit. I had been rejected, but I was still in love. And so I decided to start over.
I didn't see it then, but it turned out that getting fired from Apple was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner again, less sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the most creative periods of my life.
During the next five years, I started a company named NeXT, another company named Pixar, and fell in love with an amazing woman who would become my wife. Pixar went on to create the worlds first computer animated feature film, Toy Story, and is now the most successful animation studio in the world. In a remarkable turn of events, Apple bought NeXT, I returned to Apple, and the technology we developed at NeXT is at the heart of Apple's current renaissance. And Laurene and I have a wonderful family together.
I'm pretty sure none of this would have happened if I hadn't been fired from Apple. It was awful tasting medicine, but I guess the patient needed it. Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did. You've got to find what you love. And that is as true for your work as it is for your lovers. Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you find it. Don't settle.
My third story is about death.
When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: "If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right." It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.
Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.
About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn't even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is doctor's code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids everything you thought you'd have the next 10 years to tell them in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.
I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy, where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with surgery. I had the surgery and I'm fine now.
This was the closest I've been to facing death, and I hope its the closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely intellectual concept:
No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.
Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.
When I was young, there was an amazing publication called The Whole Earth Catalog, which was one of the bibles of my generation. It was created by a fellow named Stewart Brand not far from here in Menlo Park, and he brought it to life with his poetic touch. This was in the late 1960's, before personal computers and desktop publishing, so it was all made with typewriters, scissors, and polaroid cameras. It was sort of like Google in paperback form, 35 years before Google came along: it was idealistic, and overflowing with neat tools and great notions.
Stewart and his team put out several issues of The Whole Earth Catalog, and then when it had run its course, they put out a final issue. It was the mid-1970s, and I was your age. On the back cover of their final issue was a photograph of an early morning country road, the kind you might find yourself hitchhiking on if you were so adventurous. Beneath it were the words: "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." It was their farewell message as they signed off. Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. And I have always wished that for myself. And now, as you graduate to begin anew, I wish that for you.
Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.
Thank you all very much.
Stanford Report, June 14, 2005
'You've got to find what you love,' Jobs says
This is the text of the Commencement address by Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple Computer and of Pixar Animation Studios, delivered on June 12, 2005.
I am honored to be with you today at your commencement from one of the finest universities in the world. I never graduated from college. Truth be told, this is the closest I've ever gotten to a college graduation. Today I want to tell you three stories from my life. That's it. No big deal. Just three stories.
The first story is about connecting the dots.
I dropped out of Reed College after the first 6 months, but then stayed around as a drop-in for another 18 months or so before I really quit. So why did I drop out?
It started before I was born. My biological mother was a young, unwed college graduate student, and she decided to put me up for adoption. She felt very strongly that I should be adopted by college graduates, so everything was all set for me to be adopted at birth by a lawyer and his wife. Except that when I popped out they decided at the last minute that they really wanted a girl. So my parents, who were on a waiting list, got a call in the middle of the night asking: "We have an unexpected baby boy; do you want him?" They said: "Of course." My biological mother later found out that my mother had never graduated from college and that my father had never graduated from high school. She refused to sign the final adoption papers. She only relented a few months later when my parents promised that I would someday go to college.
And 17 years later I did go to college. But I naively chose a college that was almost as expensive as Stanford, and all of my working-class parents' savings were being spent on my college tuition. After six months, I couldn't see the value in it. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life and no idea how college was going to help me figure it out. And here I was spending all of the money my parents had saved their entire life. So I decided to drop out and trust that it would all work out OK. It was pretty scary at the time, but looking back it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The minute I dropped out I could stop taking the required classes that didn't interest me, and begin dropping in on the ones that looked interesting.
It wasn't all romantic. I didn't have a dorm room, so I slept on the floor in friends' rooms, I returned coke bottles for the 5¢ deposits to buy food with, and I would walk the 7 miles across town every Sunday night to get one good meal a week at the Hare Krishna temple. I loved it. And much of what I stumbled into by following my curiosity and intuition turned out to be priceless later on. Let me give you one example:
Reed College at that time offered perhaps the best calligraphy instruction in the country. Throughout the campus every poster, every label on every drawer, was beautifully hand calligraphed. Because I had dropped out and didn't have to take the normal classes, I decided to take a calligraphy class to learn how to do this. I learned about serif and san serif typefaces, about varying the amount of space between different letter combinations, about what makes great typography great. It was beautiful, historical, artistically subtle in a way that science can't capture, and I found it fascinating.
None of this had even a hope of any practical application in my life. But ten years later, when we were designing the first Macintosh computer, it all came back to me. And we designed it all into the Mac. It was the first computer with beautiful typography. If I had never dropped in on that single course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts. And since Windows just copied the Mac, its likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do. Of course it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards ten years later.
Again, you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something — your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life.
My second story is about love and loss.
I was lucky — I found what I loved to do early in life. Woz and I started Apple in my parents garage when I was 20. We worked hard, and in 10 years Apple had grown from just the two of us in a garage into a $2 billion company with over 4000 employees. We had just released our finest creation — the Macintosh — a year earlier, and I had just turned 30. And then I got fired. How can you get fired from a company you started? Well, as Apple grew we hired someone who I thought was very talented to run the company with me, and for the first year or so things went well. But then our visions of the future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When we did, our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And very publicly out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was gone, and it was devastating.
I really didn't know what to do for a few months. I felt that I had let the previous generation of entrepreneurs down - that I had dropped the baton as it was being passed to me. I met with David Packard and Bob Noyce and tried to apologize for screwing up so badly. I was a very public failure, and I even thought about running away from the valley. But something slowly began to dawn on me — I still loved what I did. The turn of events at Apple had not changed that one bit. I had been rejected, but I was still in love. And so I decided to start over.
I didn't see it then, but it turned out that getting fired from Apple was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner again, less sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the most creative periods of my life.
During the next five years, I started a company named NeXT, another company named Pixar, and fell in love with an amazing woman who would become my wife. Pixar went on to create the worlds first computer animated feature film, Toy Story, and is now the most successful animation studio in the world. In a remarkable turn of events, Apple bought NeXT, I returned to Apple, and the technology we developed at NeXT is at the heart of Apple's current renaissance. And Laurene and I have a wonderful family together.
I'm pretty sure none of this would have happened if I hadn't been fired from Apple. It was awful tasting medicine, but I guess the patient needed it. Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did. You've got to find what you love. And that is as true for your work as it is for your lovers. Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you find it. Don't settle.
My third story is about death.
When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: "If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right." It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.
Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.
About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn't even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is doctor's code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids everything you thought you'd have the next 10 years to tell them in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.
I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy, where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with surgery. I had the surgery and I'm fine now.
This was the closest I've been to facing death, and I hope its the closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely intellectual concept:
No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.
Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.
When I was young, there was an amazing publication called The Whole Earth Catalog, which was one of the bibles of my generation. It was created by a fellow named Stewart Brand not far from here in Menlo Park, and he brought it to life with his poetic touch. This was in the late 1960's, before personal computers and desktop publishing, so it was all made with typewriters, scissors, and polaroid cameras. It was sort of like Google in paperback form, 35 years before Google came along: it was idealistic, and overflowing with neat tools and great notions.
Stewart and his team put out several issues of The Whole Earth Catalog, and then when it had run its course, they put out a final issue. It was the mid-1970s, and I was your age. On the back cover of their final issue was a photograph of an early morning country road, the kind you might find yourself hitchhiking on if you were so adventurous. Beneath it were the words: "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." It was their farewell message as they signed off. Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. And I have always wished that for myself. And now, as you graduate to begin anew, I wish that for you.
Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.
Thank you all very much.
2008年11月30日
2008年11月25日
關於駁斥某中間選民學長在台灣經濟發展上的看法
XXXX學長,
首先要謝謝你來淌這個渾水。有蠻多問題想向你請教的,尤其是關於台灣經濟表現的解讀。我相信對於經濟現象的解讀見人見智,所以希望學長能夠惠賜高見,解答我的疑惑。
以下是針對學長原先的文章順序:
一、我們都知道中國成長快速,也帶動東亞許多國家的經濟成長。這一點我想沒有人可以否認。不過,台灣成長沒有其他國家快的理由,難道就只是因為台灣和中國的經濟整合不夠全面開放不夠快嗎?
從1997年到目前,台灣與中國的經濟活動一直是成長中的,進出口貿易的成長率一直都很可觀。海基金的兩岸經貿統計顯示,在過去八年中,台灣對中國的進出口成長率除了2001以外,全都是十幾個百分比,甚至2004年的時候,還有出口27%,進口52%的驚人成長。
學長是否能告訴我,到底台灣與中國的貿易往來要多密切才能讓台灣成長得跟其他國家一樣好呢?還是學長知道其他阻止台灣經濟表現更亮眼的原因呢?
二、當你在比較台灣與韓國的GDP數字的時候,是採用名目GDP,還是平衡過通貨澎漲/匯率/實質購買力後的實質GDP呢?
我在IMF的網站上查詢了一下,如果以實質購買力加以平衡過的話,韓國的每人GDP在1997年是13,715,在2007年是24,803,而台灣在1997年是16,850,在2007年是30,321。也就是說,韓國一直沒有趕過台灣,而且差距還拉大了。
我想學長應該知道韓國的物價水準一直在昇高,即使國民所得在名目上是成長的,但是人民的生活未必過得更好。反而台灣政府在通貨澎漲的控制上,一直是做得比較好的。如果學長看過這些數據後,還是認為韓國的經濟表現大幅領先台灣的話,可否再給其他的證據呢?
三、學長提出了幾個中國大都市的物價水平,彷佛是認為只要物價高,就是經濟好的證明。這一點我很訥悶的地方在於,我們追求經濟成長,是希望物價很高嗎?台灣近幾年的薪水增加沒有很快,我們去追求物價飛漲是一件好事嗎?
四、GDP從一萬到二萬的增加速度… 如果這個說法有理論,或甚至只有假說的話,可以請學長惠賜一下那個理論的網址嗎?我很想多了解一下這個理論:如果它能夠解釋英國成長遲緩的話,對於幫助台灣的經濟一定也要幫助的!
至於台灣的停滯世界第一這件事情,我誠懇地希望學長說這個話是有根據的… 自從學了統計後,我更相信,所有的評比都是可以操作,而比較的樣本也更形重要。如果學長能惠賜資料的出處,以佐證台灣這一項世界第一的話,學弟不勝感激!
五、學長提到台灣出口對中國依賴很深,也提到台灣有150萬的人在中國工作。這的確是很驚人的數字。我記得有看過一些資料,提到在主要國家中,台灣對中國投資占全國GDP比重是世界第一,而累積的投資總額,更是傲視全球。這個資料在海基會是查得到的。同樣的問題,想再問一次學長:這樣的貿易依存,夠不夠台灣賺中國的錢呢?如果之前投了這麼多,還賺不夠的話,還要投多少再能賺得到呢?
再者,即然台灣和中國來往這麼密切的話,政府想必應該要花更多時間去建立可以幫助台商在中國的利益,像是法律訴訟的協助,人身安全的保障,公司工廠營運可以免於中國官僚的無端騷擾,或是其他政治經濟上的迫害… 現在新政府也上台半年了,可以請學長分享一些新政府在這一方面的具體措施嗎?
六、我絕對贊同學長所說,台灣是以小事大,要用智慧賺中國的錢。我發現,過去的八年,民進黨政府雖然會在政治和外交上對抗中國,但是在經濟上對中國卻是一直很開放的。目前的政府,在對中國加速開放的方向上很清楚,但是他在策略上要如何有效提振國內經濟,卻講不出通盤的方案。每每提出的經濟政策,都是短期方案。也許學長可以告訴我們,台灣目前政府的智慧在那邊?學長是否能真心信任目前這任政府的各項兩岸政策?
學長在「賣台」這個話題上,突然有點在玩文字遊戲的感覺。用錢買國家,當然不是前無古人,像以色列建國就是一例,不過,我想用以色列的例子來看的話,用錢買國家並不是一個好主意。我並不贊成學長在賣台這個話題的看法,不過這方面的討論,我覺得還是私下進行比較好一點。
最後的一個問題,就是我想請問學長:你所謂的標準的中間選民,站的是什麼立場?如果中間選民的立場,和pan-blue的說法一致的話,我是不是可以直接說中間選民就是pan-blue呢?還是學長可以解釋一下你所謂的「標準的中間選民」在立場上和pan-blue有什麼不一樣呢?
非常期待學長的指教。
首先要謝謝你來淌這個渾水。有蠻多問題想向你請教的,尤其是關於台灣經濟表現的解讀。我相信對於經濟現象的解讀見人見智,所以希望學長能夠惠賜高見,解答我的疑惑。
以下是針對學長原先的文章順序:
一、我們都知道中國成長快速,也帶動東亞許多國家的經濟成長。
從1997年到目前,台灣與中國的經濟活動一直是成長中的,
學長是否能告訴我,
二、當你在比較台灣與韓國的GDP數字的時候,
我在IMF的網站上查詢了一下,
我想學長應該知道韓國的物價水準一直在昇高,
三、學長提出了幾個中國大都市的物價水平,
四、GDP從一萬到二萬的增加速度… 如果這個說法有理論,或甚至只有假說的話,
至於台灣的停滯世界第一這件事情,
五、學長提到台灣出口對中國依賴很深,
再者,即然台灣和中國來往這麼密切的話,
六、我絕對贊同學長所說,台灣是以小事大,要用智慧賺中國的錢。
學長在「賣台」這個話題上,突然有點在玩文字遊戲的感覺。
最後的一個問題,就是我想請問學長:你所謂的標準的中間選民,
非常期待學長的指教。
2008年11月21日
關於駁斥某泛藍學長對於台灣未來的看法
我也很擔心台灣的前途,希望台灣能更好,所以我必須不客氣地指出你信中的一些錯誤。
第一個錯誤是,你說一種做法是和北京打好關係,另一種做法是到處衝撞。我必須要說,這是一個錯誤的假設。兩岸關係應該有無限的可能性 。手段上的彈性,時間上的彈性,方向上的彈性,如何善加規畫,讓台灣獲得最大利益,才應該是台灣政府的責任吧!簡化成兩種截然不同的選項,未免太單純了吧?
第二個錯誤是,就算是二分法,我也不認為和北京打好關係就不會順便把錢搬進自己帳戶。你把兩岸關係的政策方向,和總統個人的私德好壞合在一起討論,在邏輯上不對勁,也容易導致錯誤的推論。國家需要良好的制度,以避免政府官員貪污瀆職,但是這種制度上的檢討改良,和兩岸關係顯然是不同層次的議題吧?
第三個錯誤是,民進黨的不好,不表示國民黨的好。2008總統大選,國民黨的勝利,很大部份是因為中間選民對民進黨執政結果不滿意。這個選舉的結果不表示,台灣人民從此就心向中國,也不表示從此國民黨和馬總統的所作所為會自動得到全體人民的授權而不用受到人民的監督。如果是這樣的話,我們選的應該不是總統,反而是皇帝了。難道選完了,人民就不再是主人了嗎?
第四個錯誤是,民進黨是第二名,民進黨需要改進,這並不表示我們不應該要求國民黨好好盡他們執政黨的責任。國民黨已經行政立法司法一把抓的執政黨,全面執政,就應該全面負責。民進黨改不好,只是少一個強力的反對黨;國民黨如果做不好,全國人民都會受苦。也就是,以切身利益來講,我們反而更應該要求國民黨,仔細監督國民黨才對啊!監督在野黨,執政黨就會自動變好嗎?
我必須再說一些個人的感想:我發現很多人在討論政治話題的時候,自動就掉入藍綠的刻版印象,然後就彼此開始對抗。這個其實是很不好的習慣。難道一個人不能夠在經濟問題上認同藍營,而在主權問題上認同綠營嗎?如果台灣的獨立問題不能從藍綠對抗中拔開來,就沒有理性討論的空間了。因為我們太容易因人廢言,而被黨派對抗挾持了我們的理性思辯的能力。
很多議題,一旦被標上藍綠的色彩後,在台灣就變成政治鬥爭,對於議題本身的討論,反而就被淡化了。而往往當一個人認同的對象是藍綠某一個陣營,而不是議題本身的話,往往就容易說出前後矛盾的話。一個最好的例子是國民黨在總統大選前後前後對於油價漲跌的說法:選前不斷說要凍漲,讓大選後的新政府決定如何處理,而選後則不斷要求即將下台的政府趕快解除凍漲。同樣的狀況,民進黨也多得是。
台灣媒體專注在政治八掛缺少深刻的報導更讓這種情形惡化。我記得陳雲林到台灣時,全部媒體都在關心抗爭和流血衝突,以及政治人物對於這些抗爭的影響。我不記得看過那個報導認真分析四大協議對於台灣經濟的可能衝擊。如果陳雲林來台是代表兩岸更進一步的交往的話,我們做為國家主人的,不是應該更關心我們要怎麼和對岸交往嗎?議題被模糊了!
比方說,在兩岸食品安全協議中,對於食品的檢驗的協議是由出口方進行,而非入口方進行。你知道三鹿和蒙牛都曾是中國官方認可產品安全不用受檢驗的廠商嗎?你還記得中國曾經隱瞞三鹿產品的問題長達半年,導致成千上萬嬰兒健康受損嗎?你們覺得這樣的兩岸食品安全協議令人安心嗎?
比方說,這次的四大協議有訂下日出條款 - 有三個協議會在簽約後40天自動生效,另外一個時間更短。想想看,你和你的老公老婆結婚時,你們花了多少時間準備,再想想看這些海運空運通郵食品安全的協議竟然要在 40天內生效,不需經過立法院同意,你真的安心嗎?
我真心地懇求XXXX的系友們,發揮你們的理性,提供你們的想法。我們當然已經聽夠了各種的謊話、作秀、抗爭、無理取鬧,但是正因為如此,如果有這個園地,而我們能夠聽到一些針對政治議題的客觀理性分析 的話,那必定是大家的福氣啊!
第一個錯誤是,你說一種做法是和北京打好關係,
第二個錯誤是,就算是二分法,
第三個錯誤是,民進黨的不好,不表示國民黨的好。2008總統大
第四個錯誤是,民進黨是第二名,民進黨需要改進,
我必須再說一些個人的感想:我發現很多人在討論政治話題的時候,
很多議題,一旦被標上藍綠的色彩後,在台灣就變成政治鬥爭,
台灣媒體專注在政治八掛缺少深刻的報導更讓這種情形惡化。
比方說,在兩岸食品安全協議中,
比方說,這次的四大協議有訂下日出條款 - 有三個協議會在簽約後40天自動生效,另外一個時間更短。
我真心地懇求XXXX的系友們,發揮你們的理性,
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